[jaguar]

Sorry I didn't mean to say you were, its just a train of thought that came out of that statement, in that people *innately* want to be free. My lovely habit of going off on odd tangents rears its ugly head again.

You have a point, I know at least one Fundamentalist Christian sect a bit like the Amish who let their kids go explore the world for a year when they turn 18 then let them choose whether to return or not, which if you ask me is a pretty good system, depending on how brainwashed they already are and stuff I spose.

I saw the best cartoon today. It was this general standing in front of rows of shiney missles, tanks, planes lined up, warships along the dock. A soldier comes up to him and goes "wouldn't it just be cheaper to eradicate poverty?"