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Radar · 02-24-2008, 08:45 PM

We don't get to decide if a fallen enemy gets to have a standing army before, during, or after a war. Surrender terms do not mean giving up sovereignty unless the losing country is being acquired as part of an empire. Unless this is the case, we do not have the authority to build permanent military bases within their country. In fact we don't have the authority to have a military base there when the war is concluded.

We are not at war when we are at peace. When a country has surrendered and we have accepted their surrender, we are no longer at war.

When is a boxing match over? When someone either gives up, get's knocked out, or time runs out. With war, time is also an issue. The longer you are at war, the fewer resources you have to fight one.

We never had legitimate justification to invade Iraq in 1991 or at any time since then. Every soldier who went there did so in violation of the Constitution. Every bullet fired, ship prevented from taking in good, no fly zone, or bomb dropped was done so illegally.

02-24-2008, 08:45 PM	#3
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	We don't get to decide if a fallen enemy gets to have a standing army before, during, or after a war. Surrender terms do not mean giving up sovereignty unless the losing country is being acquired as part of an empire. Unless this is the case, we do not have the authority to build permanent military bases within their country. In fact we don't have the authority to have a military base there when the war is concluded. We are not at war when we are at peace. When a country has surrendered and we have accepted their surrender, we are no longer at war. When is a boxing match over? When someone either gives up, get's knocked out, or time runs out. With war, time is also an issue. The longer you are at war, the fewer resources you have to fight one. We never had legitimate justification to invade Iraq in 1991 or at any time since then. Every soldier who went there did so in violation of the Constitution. Every bullet fired, ship prevented from taking in good, no fly zone, or bomb dropped was done so illegally. __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin