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Originally Posted by Cicero
It's funny that you are all about being patriotic, and you still feel defrauding the government overtly, thereby defrauding the state, and your co-workers, and new country is ok.
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None of the undocumented immigrants is defrauding the state or co-workers, or the country. The American government on the other hand is defrauding the American people, the immigrants who come here with or without papers, and countries all over the world.
The American government is exercising powers it does not legitimately have. It is writing and enforcing laws that are a direct violation of the U.S. Constitution.
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Originally Posted by Cicero
As long as someone is paying in, the criminal act isn't criminal? I'm done talking to you. You are a completely illogical nut-bag.
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In this case, the criminal act is on the part of the government violating the Constitution and illegally deporting people. You are a complete idiot who knows nothing whatsoever about the Constitution or what it means to be an American. You just run your mouth off about shit you have no clue about and make outrageous claims that you can't back up.
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Originally Posted by Cicero
Using someone elses name for documentation is criminal no matter how you slice it, in this country. Using their designated number is also criminal.
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Deporting undocumented immigrants from America is a criminal act no matter how you slice it. They are not violating any legitimate laws by coming here, and are forced into using someone else's social security number to get work. They are still paying income taxes (another illegal part of government) and are paying billions more than they use in services. If the government commits a criminal act against someone, they have a take whatever steps they must to defend against that illegal action. For instance, if the government sends people to my house to take my guns away from me, I have the right to kill those who come to do it. Normally killing another person is wrong, but if they are violating my rights, it's no longer a crime. If the government is violating the rights of undocumented immigrants, preventing them from getting legal identification, preventing them from working without that documentation, illegally deporting people, etc. these people are within their rights to avoid such illegal action on the part of the government by putting someone else's number on their paperwork. The fault lies with the government, not with these people and only an idiot would even hint otherwise. This of course includes you.
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Originally Posted by Cicero
You are starting to seem like an advocate of criminality, and fraud, more than just an insane asshole.
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I could say the same thing about you. You support fraud, violence, and treason on the part of the government. You support illegal laws and illegal organizations to enforce them. You're not only an insane asshole, but a pathetic moron too.
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Originally Posted by Cicero
I have met a lot of undocumented advocates..you are the worst however, because you don't give a shit about breaking the systems in place or the law.
I really can't even entertain a flame war with someone that is so far out there.
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You are correct. I have absolutely no problem in violating illegal laws that the government has absolutely zero authority to create or enforce. But it is you who are "out there". I'm right here with the founders of America who prohibited the federal government from creating or enforcing immigration laws. I've just got common sense, education, reason, logic, the founders, and the U.S. Constitution on my side and you've got a bunch of redneck, racist, dickheads on yours.
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Originally Posted by Cicero
Get your metal hat on as I think the aliens have melted your brain. Too insane for me. I'm out.
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They tried to melt your brain, but there was nothing to melt.