[Sundae]

I've had to stop reading Stranger in a Strange Land because the attitude to women is so out-dated it kills the future premise.

It's only when I see how far we have come in the last 100 years that I realise it's still worth keeping an eye on things.

Yes, the men started the objectification. It's been a man's world for centuries, and only started changing - slowly, slowly - as women got the vote. Men being visual creatures, they will objectify the object of their desire. Any dating site you look at, any casual hook-up site, any would-like-to-meet - the majority of posts by men express a preference for looks. From no fat women, to freckled women, from big busty black to small Asian, from hair colour preference to hair length preference. You only rarely see that in female ads. Their preference is for kind, or caring or GSOH. (Although as an aside, I met a woman who said she wouldn't be interested in a man with less than 9 inches because it wasn't worth it. She wasn't all that appealing a prospect herself, so I just wished her luck - I'd say she was shallow, but she must instead be very deep).

I'm not saying man = bad, woman = good.
Just that men want visual stimulation. And that can affect the perception of a woman as a whole person.