I never said anything about their points being valid or invalid. I am just sick of people looking to celebrities for guidance, moral, political, social, etc. These are just regular people and I don't know about you, but I don't take everything my friends say as absolute truth. I think for myself and look to credible sources to form my opinions. Yeah I am cynical, but it's hard not to be with all the mudslinging, hate, and coercive speech that is everywhere these days. Living in a swing state doesn't help either