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Originally Posted by Radar
Premeditation means you have a plan to kill someone in particular, you've thought about it before hand, and you've taken steps to do it.
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Ah...I think I'm starting to get it....you mean that many school shootings weren't murders because they killed indiscriminately. Gotcha.
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Nice try, but not even close. A soldier doesn't think about a particular soldier in the opposing army. They think about trying to stay alive and killing those who mean to kill them.
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So a sniper always kills indiscriminately? Never knew that.
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A person who shoots someone robbing their house has not planned to kill someone, and has not taken steps to kill them.
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So you have never thought about a particular scenario in your head? I have. If so and so broke into my house, even with no intention of deadly force, I would do so and so to so and so. That so and so being a particular person and that so and so means deadly force. I guess I would have thought about murder....
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If you make a choice to use drugs, you are responsible for any damage you cause while on those drugs. This includes murdering people. If I drink and drive and I hit a pedestrian who later dies, I have committed murder.
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So your definition isn't "murder means they thought about it before doing it"? It is "murder means they thought about it before doing it or they took a drug that led them to mistakenly do it" because there wasn't premeditation in the drug case. Thanks for that.
You ignored my insanity example by the way.