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Originally Posted by TheMercenary
Of course it is a matter of perception. Isn't all politics? The liberal left-wing saw a confident on the spot response to an unscripted question, the rest of the country saw a dude tripping over his previous statements to cover his ass. "No, it's not about income redistribution."
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Well, I don't think you can divide the nation into "the liberal left wing" and the "rest of the country". You've bunched the conservative right wing, the moderate left & right, the centrists, and the clueless together, in a united position. You know that ain't true on anything.
Cover his ass? Nah, presented with a voter that is hostile because he pictures himself in the 5% of the big money earners someday, what's he going to do? Say, nannie nannie boo boo, suck it up? No, he is going to explain exactly how it will affect Joe and present the facts that it's not as bad as Joe thinks it will be and a scenario where it might even be good for Joe. I wouldn't call that tripping all over previous statements.
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Originally Posted by Undertoad
Okay, yeah, the main socialismo phrase he used was "spread the wealth", although that certainly wasn't the bulk of the discussion.
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I must have missed that. But those three words, in one speech, during a two year campaign, builds a pretty weak case. For the voters that feel that way, that wasn't much of a vindication.
As for Joe, if he hadn't been poked with a pointy stick by the McCain camp, I think he'd have been satisfied with Obama's answer. I don't claim he'd have been happy with the plan or voted for him, just satisfied with Obama's treating him with respect.
UT, I know you follow the political scene pretty closely and know who's in what camp, who's saying what, and the overall subtle shifts of positions in the ebb an flow.
I don't. I couldn't tell you who's who of the advisors or pundits, no less the positions or strengths. But I do have considerable contact with a lot of people that don't follow it closely. Sometimes they exasperate me with their level of disinterest, but I do hear what they think and most, of both parties thought Joe was a non-starter.
Probably because non of them make $250k
