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Originally Posted by TheMercenary
IRC got their information from detainees. Hardly a good source as I stated earlier.
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For this post to have honesty, you must dispute the long list of accusations of torture by many separate and independent parties. You must dispute every one. You don't even try because the fact is America was torturing. The memo simply demonstrates in 2002 the first step in authorizing torture. And where was it being authorized? In the highest levels of the George Jr administration.
FBI interrogators left places like Iraq once the torture started. Why? First - once a prisoner is tortured, the well is poisoned. Nothing useful can be obtained. Second, FBI agents did not want to be party to obvious illegal activities. But extremists tell use torture did not exist because maybe one hundred separated prisoners (who had no contact with one another) all repeated the same stories. All described the same torture methods.
Amazing how those *enemies* are clairvoyant. Using mind telepathy, they shared the same stories before the IRC got to them. These many *enemies* who have since been released from American prisons because they were not guilty of anything – and yet tell similar stories of the torture methods used on them.
Who is most likely to torture? Prison keepers who are holding innocent men without even judicial review. How curious. That is the George Jr administration that has a long history of overt lying.
Fact is that Americans were torturing prisoners. Even FBI agents said so. Torture justified by the same 'we are good and they are evil' agenda that characterized wacko extremist politics. How do we know torture did not happen? Extremists denied it. That is the entire proof? Of course extremists deny it. The act of being an extremist requires lying even to one's self.
Reality is that the George Jr administration did authorize the use of torture and holding innocent people for years in prisons. Even secret torture prisons that Obama closed on day 2 … because those prisons did exist despite extremists denials.
The honest response is to admit Americans were torturing. And doing so because it was authorized inside the George Jr administration by people such as Gonzales.
No wonder these same people tried to get us into a war with China over a silly spy plane.