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Originally Posted by Bullitt
I wouldn't. My entire family lives in Southern California, I was born there and I wish to go back for good soon. Just as with many people across America, there are tons of folks in California who had no hand in this budgetary mess, my family included. So I think I'm allowed to be a bit offended when people just write off the whole state and everyone in it. "Let it burn", "Fuck em", etc. No, fuck you.
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Yes, I do know that there are good people there in Cali. They number in the millions if not tens of millions. I've met many reasonable people that are residents there.
Could we possibly bail those people out? Selectively? No. So what are we left with? Allowing the entire system to collapse to give reasonable people the opportunity to take control again. Bailing out the current system will only give us more of what we have seen in the past 10+ years.
Consider this. Grey Davis supposedly drove the state into fiscal chaos and was replaced by "The Governator". I honestly thought Arnold could change things there and cut the spending to sustainable levels.
That was a very silly idea, that somehow one party might be able to make a difference more than the other. What they need IMO is a complete re-org. A reboot. At that point the normal folks might be a bit more aggressive at getting things right.
So that's for the "Let them
fail" side of the argument.
What do you seriously think will change with a Cali bailout? And for that matter an Indiana, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, etc bailout package?
It seems reasonable with the recent history here with the Feds that the thinking would be;
"Hey, they went along with that bullshit bailout....now let's get a
bigger one"!
So, those normal people in Cali, like your family, will see hard times in the short term with a gov't failure. Most likely in ways that we've not seen in the US here in 80 years or so.
Why not prepare for the fall and take it knowing that it's going to happen. It's not a question of if but when. California, as well as many other states are completely unsustainable and completely out of control. The entire USA actually.
As for being offended, yes that's your "right" I suppose but this is the Cellar.
Do you believe that I've never been offended by what I read here?