[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I agree completely that the Tea Baggers have legitimate concerns, although I dont share those concerns.

They just disagree with Demoncrats and happen to be a larger force than your guys will recognize. The elections will speak to whether that truth bears out.

But the reason they are not a legitimate political force is that those concerns are being drowned out by the extremists among them that will detract from more reasonable independents taking up their cause at the ballot box.

Extremists like Pelosi and Reid represent the otherside of the same coin.

Start with the perceived leadership -- Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. and the lies and the myths they perpetuate, from the "death panels" to the "Obama is not a citizen" rhetoric...all of it contribute to the ignorant signs and shouts which drive others away.

Your first and most common error is that you describe those individuals as "perceived leadership". Those are lables of the liberal media elite whom don't like their views and would like to take away their rights to point out views which are contrary to the mainstream Demoncratic leadership. I don't support much of what they say but there is truth in all propaganda including yours.

Are these really the voices you want leading the revolution?

They don't.

And then look in the mirror and you will see how the Cellar is a microcosm of much of what detracts from the movement....with similar ignorant posts from you and UG ( Nazi cunt, childish graphics, charges of socialism behind every Democratic program, personal attacks on the character of those with whom you disagree).

Look in the mirror yourself. Pot meet kettle. And if you look at my comments I never called her a Nazi Cunt. Those things were in separate sentances. You gave her that lable but I really can't disagree.

Do you really think that helps attract supporters to your cause?

I am not interested in "attracting supporters". This is not a recruiting forum. I am expressing my veiws and ideas I have generally supported. Well unless I have been pointed out a better alternative, so far you haven't put much up to change that in your White House talking points.

It is not about me. Your scholar is on the fringe.

So far nothing you have provided us proves anything different.

The libertarian policies and positions espoused by you and Ludwig Von Mises Institute have never achieved any meaningful level of popular support anytime in history and anywhere in the western world....because they represent a fringe ideology and the vast majority of the economic and public policy scholars, and more importantly, the citizenry, recognize that such policies are not in the "peoples" best interest.

Your opinion. Plenty of people are beginning to explore alternative to the dominance of tax and spend Demoncrats and do nothing Republickins.