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skysidhe · 12-15-2009, 04:21 PM

I don't think the complaints will get very far except to elicit more fear into those who already distrust this administration. The bama haters will take this fault of the smart meters as proof of a fascist regime.

I am not going to go that far but I do think this is the very worst time for the government to be rolling out a new technology. Some people, who rely on electric for their heat have massive usage bills. Previous 100 dollar bills jump to 300 dollar charges. I feel terrible for the seniors on fixed incomes.

Maybe if we were living with peace on earth in the land of perpetual sunshine and employment for everyone was just something we could once again take for granted then maybe we wouldn't mind the government gambling on peoples last dollars for the benefit of digital controlled appliances. I know that's blase at best.

There's more than just green technology. I can think of those futuristic shows where lights come on voice command but there's also another control factor that gets my hackles up. I can't even voice them out loud. It seems like others already are though.

Ok there are the conspiracy theory sites. I am not saying I am buying into it but I am watching closely.

http://poorrepublican.today.com/2009...ol-the-switch/

Meter measurement of electricity by the hour or less. That means they can measure your use at any given time and monitor and log it. The meter proponents say this is to help you control your usage by feedback. It’s actually to control your usage by making sure you meet whatever guidelines Obama has put in place, such asthis proposal in England.
Ability to “throttle” electricity by setting a maximum amount usable at any given time or per hour, per day, etc. Why build this ability into the meters unless you plan on using it? This means Obama’s EcoNazis will tell you how much electricity to use and when. First it will be “voluntary” and based on price. If that doesn’t work, because you are willing or able to pay what it takes to use what you want, they will simply ration your power to make you conform to the limits Obama sets. They will use the meter to set a level of power that they decide you are allowed to have and you will get no more. Period. You can cook, but not watch TV at the same time. You can watch tv, but not have your computer on. Get the picture so far?
Ability to detect unauthorized use of electricity. See above.
Bi-directional communication. Self explanatory. They can’t decide how much you can use unless they have a good database of your usage, right?
Ability to interface with water and gas meters. One stop shopping for the EcoNazis. You use too much gas? Bad for global warming. Sorry, but we’ll have to set limits on that too. Take faster showers, buddy.
They’ll even be able to calculate your “carbon footprint” by integrating the data from all your usages, and then set limits on everything based on that. Oh, that sounds paranoid, doesn’t it?

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/oba..._smart_meters/
What really caught my attention was this “Smart Meters” thing. During the campaign Obama said that we can’t just have our thermostats set wherever we want (even though he sure likes cranking the thermostat in his own office, the big hypocrite). Is this “Smart Meters” thing a way for the government to monitor our energy consumption?
It appears as though it is, and I wonder if the Smart Meters the “stimulus bill’ is going to put into place are going to report our energy consumption to the government? If so, what an awful thing!
If the government starts monitoring our energy consumption, it will only be so long until the government is dictating to us how much energy we can use.
And what does that have to do with freedom and liberty?
It should would have been nice if we could have read and debated this bill before Democrats pushed it through Congress.

12-15-2009, 04:21 PM	#5
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	I don't think the complaints will get very far except to elicit more fear into those who already distrust this administration. The bama haters will take this fault of the smart meters as proof of a fascist regime. I am not going to go that far but I do think this is the very worst time for the government to be rolling out a new technology. Some people, who rely on electric for their heat have massive usage bills. Previous 100 dollar bills jump to 300 dollar charges. I feel terrible for the seniors on fixed incomes. Maybe if we were living with peace on earth in the land of perpetual sunshine and employment for everyone was just something we could once again take for granted then maybe we wouldn't mind the government gambling on peoples last dollars for the benefit of digital controlled appliances. I know that's blase at best. There's more than just green technology. I can think of those futuristic shows where lights come on voice command but there's also another control factor that gets my hackles up. I can't even voice them out loud. It seems like others already are though. Ok there are the conspiracy theory sites. I am not saying I am buying into it but I am watching closely. http://poorrepublican.today.com/2009...ol-the-switch/ Meter measurement of electricity by the hour or less. That means they can measure your use at any given time and monitor and log it. The meter proponents say this is to help you control your usage by feedback. It’s actually to control your usage by making sure you meet whatever guidelines Obama has put in place, such asthis proposal in England. Ability to “throttle” electricity by setting a maximum amount usable at any given time or per hour, per day, etc. Why build this ability into the meters unless you plan on using it? This means Obama’s EcoNazis will tell you how much electricity to use and when. First it will be “voluntary” and based on price. If that doesn’t work, because you are willing or able to pay what it takes to use what you want, they will simply ration your power to make you conform to the limits Obama sets. They will use the meter to set a level of power that they decide you are allowed to have and you will get no more. Period. You can cook, but not watch TV at the same time. You can watch tv, but not have your computer on. Get the picture so far? Ability to detect unauthorized use of electricity. See above. Bi-directional communication. Self explanatory. They can’t decide how much you can use unless they have a good database of your usage, right? Ability to interface with water and gas meters. One stop shopping for the EcoNazis. You use too much gas? Bad for global warming. Sorry, but we’ll have to set limits on that too. Take faster showers, buddy. They’ll even be able to calculate your “carbon footprint” by integrating the data from all your usages, and then set limits on everything based on that. Oh, that sounds paranoid, doesn’t it? http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/oba..._smart_meters/ What really caught my attention was this “Smart Meters” thing. During the campaign Obama said that we can’t just have our thermostats set wherever we want (even though he sure likes cranking the thermostat in his own office, the big hypocrite). Is this “Smart Meters” thing a way for the government to monitor our energy consumption? It appears as though it is, and I wonder if the Smart Meters the “stimulus bill’ is going to put into place are going to report our energy consumption to the government? If so, what an awful thing! If the government starts monitoring our energy consumption, it will only be so long until the government is dictating to us how much energy we can use. And what does that have to do with freedom and liberty? It should would have been nice if we could have read and debated this bill before Democrats pushed it through Congress. Last edited by skysidhe; 12-15-2009 at 04:41 PM.