[OnyxCougar]

I only partially agree, dave.

Yes, parents are responsible for how they raise their children. It is their job to instill morals and ethics and as much common sense and responsibility as possible.

Sometimes bad people have siblings that are good people, raised the same way by the same people. Sometimes really good people come out of really bad homes with really bad parents.

I am not suggesting that parents don't have a hand in shaping their children's attitudes. That WOULD be absurd.

But I am not responsible for what my 24 year old son finds attractive. The boy had a job. He was in college. She allowed this walking problem into her home and gave her a shot. She GAVE him the lecture, she tried to tell him this wasn't a good idea. He didn't listen. That, in and of itself, tells me that he was raised properly, he KNEW this was a bad decision going in, and he figured, well why not? Mom will bail me out. It's a mistake of youth and judgement, not upbringing.



And Jim, the experience with your sister isn't even close to the same thing. First, she was underage (17), TOM's son was 23 and in college. The fundamental difference is that she wasn't even legally old enough to make a decision to go anywhere, where's TOM's son was fully an adult, by legal standards.

But your point about your sister does have validity, in that she ran off with a biker gang at 17, and you didn't. What was the difference in your upbringing?