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The prime confusion here seems to be this: it's not about civility, and it's not about name-calling. There's been plenty of name-calling here in the past. It's about inanity. The conversations in question are so irritating to so many people not because they are negative and mean-spirited, but because they are completely inane. They go in circles and never get anywhere.
It helps if you imagine your conversation being read loudly at a party. If that would make you and your conversing partner look like a couple of single-minded dicks who are incapable of socializing, then your thread is doing the same thing.
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