[Shawnee123]

One of the most selfish things one can do is go through a divorce badly, when there are kids involved. (With no kids involved it's just crybaby behavior: no better character involved it's just there is less outside damage.)

But you see it all the time: nanny nanny boo boo, my ex-wife this, my ex-husband this. Playing games and bitching and moaning, don't fool yourself if you think your kids can't see it.

Suck it up and be an adult. This, however, is the exception and not the rule. Most went into this with the pie-in-the-sky hopes and can't believe it that there's a possiblity that the 25 grand wedding and the picket fence aren't enough to sustain those youthful, if unrealistic, delusions of grand love.

My grandma and grandpa got divorced when hardly anyone did. My mom says that after that, they never fought. They got along and never once hurt her to hurt the one they divorced.

A lot of people are way more selfish than that.