[Radar]

Let's go through Undertoads BS one point at a time...

So completely horrified by the liberation of millions upon millions of people

Neither I, nor any other Libertarian that I know is horrified about any country being "liberated" or experiencing freedom. We are horrified at the misuse of our military to START unprovoked wars and to intervene in the affairs of other nations. I love how the idiots who support this war try to turn it around and suggest we don't support freedom if we don't support the American military violating the Constitution. I wish the Iraqi people all the best in getting their freedom as long as it doesn't entail the US using our military for anything other than defending America from attack which Iraq never did.

Rejecting the hope of liberation of an entire region of the world

Bullshit again. I HOPE all regions find freedom, but again, that doesn't mean it's appropriate for America to send our military to make it happen. They must earn their own freedom. America isn't here to "liberate" anyone. And for the record, the people of Iraq are no better off now than they were with Saddam.

Advancing the notion that a nation's sovereignty can be established and maintained by torture, mass killing, and bogus elections

It's worked pretty well in America. And it's pretty stupid to claim a country has no sovereignty if they don't have a government that we approve of. America has no authority beyond our own borders and no other country must answer to us. Even if they are run by a dictator. All governments including dicatorships get their power from the consent of the governed. If the people of Iraq truly wanted to be "liberated" they could have beaten Saddam and his supporters and won thier liberation on their own. There are many examples of governments being overrun with people even when those governments had superior arms.

Blithely and conveniently ignorant that free trade really requires complicated involvement with the rest of the world, who may not agree with our ideas

This is laughable. First off we don't have free trade. And Free trade doesn't require any complicated involvements with the rest of the world at all. Only an idiot who knows literally NOTHING about trade would make such a ludicrous claim.

Free trade means just that. We trade freely with all countries, but don't make complicated treaties that involve using our military. If someone wants to trade with us and we want to trade with them, we're free to do so. The founders were EXTREMELY clear on their intent to NEVER use the military to defend any nation but our own, but to freely trade, communicate, and make non-aggression treaties with others. Free trade does not require any promise of the use of our military and only a fool would claim it does.

I'm not being a contrarian at all. If I seem like my ideas are always contrary to yours it's because yours are contrary to reality, logic, and common sense.