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onetrack · 12-20-2003, 04:26 AM

Radar - I think your attitude to the military people on the ground in Iraq is wrong .. just as the anti-war peoples attitude to us as returning Vets from Vietnam was wrong .. throwing blood on us and calling us "murderers!!", only engendered hatred of the anti-war peoples aims .. which were basically idealistic.

I think you will find, that a lot of military people on the ground in Iraq, don't really want to be there .. and they are only following orders .. but more importantly .. they THINK they are doing the right thing by the Iraqi and American people.

I think your beef should really be with the U.S. military machine .. not with individual soldiers who do not deserve calls of ''traitor'' .. when they think they are doing the right thing.

The U.S. military machine .. and by that, I mean the ENTIRE industry, from soldiering to military manufacturing .. on which so much of America relies for income and security, is where the major distortion is, in America today ..

Prior to WW2, the military .. and the industry behind it, were but a blip in the economy .. no members of the current, ruling, baby-boomer generation can recall America without a massive military industry .. something that needs to be righted, before America can be put back on an even keel ..

America today resembles one of those body building freaks, with massively enlarged muscles in one area, while the rest of the body is out of proportion .. if the body is not restored to a proper proportion, problems will develop in your great nation that will inevitably lead to its decline.

Interesting reading in this gentlemans, following lecture links ....

The lecturer, Owen Harries is a senior fellow at the Centre for Independent Studies in Sydney, and Editor Emeritus of The National Interest, a leading Washington-based foreign policy quarterly ..

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/boyers/stories/s987423.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/boyers/stories/s987503.htm

I personally believe that the ''vision'' and "greatness" of America in world affairs, articulated as a quote from Tom Pain, in the second lecture, is one that is being formed .. wrongly .. by the excessive use of the U.S. military machine .. rather than one of leadership, and ''good works'' (educative works) in those foreign countries America wishes to see improved.

12-20-2003, 04:26 AM	#11
onetrack Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Western Australia Posts: 99	Radar - I think your attitude to the military people on the ground in Iraq is wrong .. just as the anti-war peoples attitude to us as returning Vets from Vietnam was wrong .. throwing blood on us and calling us "murderers!!", only engendered hatred of the anti-war peoples aims .. which were basically idealistic. I think you will find, that a lot of military people on the ground in Iraq, don't really want to be there .. and they are only following orders .. but more importantly .. they THINK they are doing the right thing by the Iraqi and American people. I think your beef should really be with the U.S. military machine .. not with individual soldiers who do not deserve calls of ''traitor'' .. when they think they are doing the right thing. The U.S. military machine .. and by that, I mean the ENTIRE industry, from soldiering to military manufacturing .. on which so much of America relies for income and security, is where the major distortion is, in America today .. Prior to WW2, the military .. and the industry behind it, were but a blip in the economy .. no members of the current, ruling, baby-boomer generation can recall America without a massive military industry .. something that needs to be righted, before America can be put back on an even keel .. America today resembles one of those body building freaks, with massively enlarged muscles in one area, while the rest of the body is out of proportion .. if the body is not restored to a proper proportion, problems will develop in your great nation that will inevitably lead to its decline. Interesting reading in this gentlemans, following lecture links .... The lecturer, Owen Harries is a senior fellow at the Centre for Independent Studies in Sydney, and Editor Emeritus of The National Interest, a leading Washington-based foreign policy quarterly .. http://www.abc.net.au/rn/boyers/stories/s987423.htm http://www.abc.net.au/rn/boyers/stories/s987503.htm I personally believe that the ''vision'' and "greatness" of America in world affairs, articulated as a quote from Tom Pain, in the second lecture, is one that is being formed .. wrongly .. by the excessive use of the U.S. military machine .. rather than one of leadership, and ''good works'' (educative works) in those foreign countries America wishes to see improved. __________________ Illiterate??? - Not a problem! Write today for more information!! ....