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					Originally Posted by BigV  Fox and I have different working opinions of that word, News.  I consider News to be facts (and opinions) about current events, about things that are happening that I don't know about, or don't know the newest or nuanced details about.  What I get from Fox is much more sizzle than steak.  I *especially* dislike their presentation style that slyly colors their presentation of facts with emotionally effective adjectives, clearly designed to persuade.  I don't want to be fucking persuaded by my newscaster.  Just tell me what happened.  I also like to hear what it means, because I don't have expertise in every area, not even many areas.  But don't tell me how to react or how to feel.  How I respond is *my* business.
 To add injury to this kind of insult, I've seen enough instances where opinion was presented as fact to seriously degrade their credibility.  I find this offensive.  Making shit up and presenting it on a network called Fox *NEWS* chaps my ass.  They're effective, and I give them full credit for that.  They have a lot of viewers (credit to their attractiveness) and a lot of believers (credit to minimally critical thinking habits of their viewers).  But they're not a trusted reliable source of good factual information offered with a minimum of bias.
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 So what do you watch to get your news, if you watch TV at all for news?
I think you are confusing News Commentary with News Broadcast. Just an observation.