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russotto · 01-13-2004, 01:47 PM

The breakup of the United States would be a _positive_ outcome compared to what I see happening. Which is what Orwell outlined in _1984_ -- a boot stomping on a human face, forever. A stable and unfree United States, arrayed against other stable forces to provide threats by which the various restrictions are justified.

Putting the blame on "Neo-Conservatives" or any other political group is pointless -- ALL the major political groups on both sides of the aisle support what is happening. On the Democratic side, only Wesley Clark is willing to stand up for civil liberties in the face of a terrorist threat, and he's a fringe long-shot.

BTW, since I wrote that, random searches were expanded from airport roads to all roads into New York City. Without so much as a peep from the media.

01-13-2004, 01:47 PM	#31
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	The breakup of the United States would be a _positive_ outcome compared to what I see happening. Which is what Orwell outlined in _1984_ -- a boot stomping on a human face, forever. A stable and unfree United States, arrayed against other stable forces to provide threats by which the various restrictions are justified. Putting the blame on "Neo-Conservatives" or any other political group is pointless -- ALL the major political groups on both sides of the aisle support what is happening. On the Democratic side, only Wesley Clark is willing to stand up for civil liberties in the face of a terrorist threat, and he's a fringe long-shot. BTW, since I wrote that, random searches were expanded from airport roads to all roads into New York City. Without so much as a peep from the media.