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Old 06-15-2011, 12:47 PM   #13
jimhelm
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yes, but thought is not required for existence to be real.

So, while it is true that you must exist in order to think, the thought is not proof of existence. You can exist ...in fact you DO, separately from your thoughts. You can observe the fact that you are 'thinking'... and doing so is a thought in itself... but ....

Sometimes, I think of it like a book with words on the pages. You are the book and the pages. The thoughts are the words.
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