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@ UT: That's unfair. The thread had organically moved into a discussion about how the right and left are/were reacting to things. It began with Wolf and I, if anything. It stands to reason that will devolve into right versus left and become precisely the conversation it did.
For the record, you appear to be doing just as much point scoring and are drifting just as fully into a left-right shit flinging contest, you're just doing it in a reasonable tone.
Update on the situation: initial estimates that there may be as many as 86 dead on the island might be revised down a little, but there are still missing people and nobody knows the final figure yet. Most of them are teenagers. It's a holiday Island used by various youth organisations for summer camps.
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