no, alan, i'm just saying "shouldn't say shouldn't" the newbies were just an example. so was what i said about wolf and juju. (yes, wolf, i can only remember you doing that once) and juju, i'm sure you were just trying to be helpful and show the location of the prior thread.
the main point i was making is that there are no rules here, and that i was noticing a recurrent theme in recent threads
that, and i was just pissed at bruce.
i'm all better now.