Everytime someone comes along and it doesn't work out, the Cellar is described as the snarkiest it's ever been.
News: the Cellar snark, though it might ebb and flow, is always there. Sometimes it's cleverly disguised, sometimes it's just out there.
Remember Jill? Yeah, I liked Jill. She was strong, opinionated, and smart. What was her 'schtick'? She liked to argue in the politics threads. What an uproar that caused. I think she did post a picture, too, and is very pretty...but she did so because you know, you gotta see how the new chick looks, right? She didn't sit back and bat her eyes and wait for praise, though. She liked politics. Well, the politics thread at that time was offending so many people, because it was so meeeeaaaannnn, and all admonitions to just not read it were ignored. Maybe Jill should have sent more visitor messages to the boys? (Another news flash, if a woman shows disdain for another woman it isn't always because she's jealous. Women have a pretty good handle on the behavior of women. It's cute that some of the guys are so pavlovian, but really, some of us need to enter the 21st century, STAT!)
So what's the difference? I don't understand, so I hope someone can explain it to me.
Is it that we stand up for those who portray themselves as meek and helpless, and who contribute in that fashion, but we don't stand up for those who seem strong and self-sufficient? News flash: strong and self-sufficient people have feelings too. And actual thoughts! And ideas! And they can be driven out by the 'cellar culture' too. Whether the poster prefers politics or music or inane dribble, we have a culture for that.
IMHO, Dis turned when the tone turned: when the drooling stopped and it moved on to the more serious matter of 'whatcha got' the attention wasn't being focused where Dis preferred.
I think she was quite warmly welcomed in her intro thread. Did that need to continue to guarantee her continued presence? Hi, have you met the Cellar?
(I'm not entirely convinced, still, the Dis isn't some 'former' dwellar, but that's really neither here nor there.)
Sure, Dis could come back. So could Jill. Their choice.
But Jebus stop blaming the people who don't fall over for every newb that comes along. I've said before, the finger pointing is another form of exclusion (snark, if you will) and none of us gets to dictate how all of us should act to every different personality type that comes along.