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Old 10-25-2012, 12:01 PM   #11
Stormieweather
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Originally Posted by Adak View Post

1) The more control the gov't has, the less freedom you have.
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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey View Post
Not generically true. Power accumulates with or without government.

Somalis do not have more freedom than Americans.
No Adak. Freedom isn't JUST about being free from government interference.

Freedom also means the freedom to be in control of one's body, it means freedom to eat food and breathe air that isn't contaminated or unsafe, freedom is having teachers to educate our children and firemen to put out fires and policemen to help protect us. Freedom is the ability to choose our rulers and vote on laws. It's being able to worship (or not) as you choose, to marry who you love, and having recourse against chicanery. Freedom is a certain level of trust and minimal fear during the course of your daily life.

Try being a second class individual in a country without these sorts of freedoms...then maybe you'll appreciate the freedom that government gives us.

And yes, I have.
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