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Old 11-01-2012, 04:26 PM   #83
Cyber Wolf
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Originally Posted by Big Sarge View Post
How long did we occupy the Phillipines, Germany, and Japan?? Did we leave because they told us to go?
Did they tell us to GTFO?

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BTW, don't blame Vietnam on the Republicans. That was a mess created by Democrats and it was a Republican who got us out. I just can't see a Republican President watching real time uas footage and not sending troops to rescue them. Remember, that consulate was considered US Soil.
You talking about Eisenhower (R) with his nation-building project covered by SEATO? The one where his pet nation South Vietnam elected a right bastard for a president, who then claimed to be under attack from North Vietnam because the North very publicly didn't like him, thus starting the war itself in 1957?

Or do you mean Kennedy (D) who didn't immediately send troops to clean up the mess when the skirmishes started, but did go on the indirect offense with missions like Operation Ranch Hand?

Or Johnson (D) who was president when Tonkin happened and the battles really ramped up?

Or Nixon (R) with his Vietnamization, Christmas Bombing and the signing of a peace treaty that ended the war for the US but not for Eisenhower's pet nation South Vietnam, effectively abandoning it and allowing it to get taken over by the North?

Lots of failures for both sides of the aisle there.
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