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Old 01-06-2013, 07:37 PM   #149
ZenGum
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Originally Posted by Adak View Post
Unlike liberals, I shy away from redefining words, to suit my POV atm.

Socialism has already been well defined:



All socialism definitions have this in common - your freedoms become less - sometimes MUCH less. The control by the state becomes more - sometimes MUCH more.

Congratulations, you have cut-and-pasted from Wikipedia. If you go on and read the entire entry, you will see that not all things called socialism require social ownership of the means of production.

Do "my" freedoms become less? Well the freedoms of the ultra-rich to screw everyone else for their private benefit do indeed become less. That is why I like it.

but .. as you wish. Let's use "socialism" to mean systems where the means of production are under collective ownership/control, as you say.

It immediately follows that there is no way Obama can be called a socialist. A tax-and-spend welfare supporter, maybe, but he has shown no sign of seizing the means of production.

Secondly, we now need a new word to describe the spectrum of what I had previously called socialism. Then we can sensibly debate which things ought to be the concern of government and which not. I invite you to suggest a new term.

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Originally Posted by Adak View Post
Yes, those plastic stocks really add a TREMENDOUS ferocity to the rifle, don't they? People just fall down dead when they see plastic, don't ya know?

Same bullet
Same barrel
Same firing mechanism
Same ejector mechanism
Same breech
Sights can be the same, or different, depending on the type of game it's intended for.

The longer stock on the long rifle, allows a better "float" system to be used, if ultra accuracy is desired.

The carbine (shorter stocked rifle), has a banana clip on it. I haven't seen a high capacity clip for the longer rifle, but they may be out there.

The longer barreled rifle will give the bullet more speed than the shorter barreled versions, increasing it's range and energy.
Way to try to hide the key point in weasel words. Even you have agreed that no law abiding gun user needs a 20 or 30 round magazine. Why did you bother?
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