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Old 03-15-2004, 06:51 PM   #165
Radar
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*sighs* Fine and dandy. Then you are free to pay extra taxes for the additional costs for higher health insurance premiums, additional mental and physical healthcare professionals, and so on to take care of the many, many children that *wil* (NOT, "might")l be affected by the mother's free choice.
I agree, I am free to pay for the additional costs of health insurance. I'm also free to not pay for it. Nobody is entitled to anything they haven't paid for or otherwise obtained without the use of force or coercion. That means nobody else's percieved wants, needs, and desires entitle them to reach into my pocket to pay for them. One man's hunger doesn't entitle him to rob another regardless of how much money they have. If a wealthy man has 1,000 steaks in front of him and his neighbor is poor, the wealthy man is not obligated to share, and the poor man is not entitled to take one of the steaks. I would encourage the wealthy man to share, but he could encourage me to fuck myself.

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Oh and by the way: YOU are the one arguing with yourself about the whole "the fetus is not a person and has no rights". I don't care about that part of the equation, because it's not the sticking point with me. What IS, however, is that people seem to be satified that the behavior of the mother will be somewhat jusitfied because of her right to behave in such a manner.
At least you agree that it is her right to behave in such a manner and that the fetus has no rights. This means you agree that she is not a criminal and while you and the vast majority of those who disagree with you may find her actions distasteful, selfish, or morally reprehensible, none of us has the authority to tell her what to do or the justification to punish her legally.

I am most certainly not attempting to condone or criticize her choices with her own body. It's just none of my business, none of your business, and none of the government's business.

I can appreciate your anger as a mother. I felt the same way about Susan Smith and Andrea Yates. I think an adequate and fair punishment for Andera Yates in particular would include being anally raped with a broken glass dildo dipped in the ebola virus or to have injections of aids and cancer to see which would kill her slower. She should be lowered alternately inch by inch first into a wood chipper, and then into lemon juice. Susan Smith on the other hand should just be boiled in oil and dragged behind a train from LA to New York. But that's just my opinion.
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