[ladysycamore]

quote:Uh, no. What I did say was that I don't CARE about whether the fetus has rights or not. That's for the abortion debate.

If you don't care whether the fetus has rights, you don't care if someone gets rid of them or chooses not to have a c-section and one doesn't make it.

So wait: are you saying that just because I don't care about the issue of the right of the fetus that I should just not care about the mother making a choice that caused her fetus to die? Allll-righty then! LMAO! Wow.

quote:No. I DO want her to be punished in some way (and not necessarily with jail, etc.) There's something "not right" if people feel that she should just go along her merry little way like nothing happened.

No, but there is something very twisted and wrong about someone who thinks she shouldn't be allowed to go along her merry little way for making a decision abouther own body.

Hm...freedom of thought and having an opinion is now "twisted and wrong"...since when???

There is something extremely wrong about those who think someone should get any kind of punishment other than the own bad feelings they might feel towards themselves.

LOL, mmm'kay then.


quote:Since when did that stop anyone from being critical? Since we're talking about "rights", then everyone has the "right" to speak out, so I will continue to be critical of her choice .

Who said you didn't have the right to speak out or be critical? I said I wasn't going to be critical and that it's none of your business or mine or the government's.

You seemed to imply that since it was "none of my business" therefore I couldn't speak my mind about it (at least, that's how *I* read it). Plus, it's pretty redundant to keep saying how it's none of my business...I realize that, but again, I WILL continue to critize her decision. I'm sure things that are none of YOUR business doesn't stop YOU from being critical in some way. All anyone has to do is look up any number some of your more flamable posts and see for themselves.

quote:Argh, bite your tongue! I have no children, no do I plan on having any.

Pardon me. I presumed you had children due to your irrational attack against a woman who is illegally being arrested and taken to court for making a decision with regard to her own body. Let me take a moment to thank you for not having children.

*laughing* Oh the melodrama!!! You're quite welcome. Please allow me to strongly request that you do not further pollute the gene pool either.

Wow...I don't agree with what she did, and that's an "attack"...hm.....you sure like to redefine words doncha?

attack: 2 : to assail with unfriendly or bitter words.

Nah, that seems to be more *your* style.

At any rate, if you have such a problem with the Utah authorites arresting her, then you need to take issue with THEM, and not me. I didn't arrest her. All I'm doing is offering my opinion, which isn't going to affect what happens to her one damn bit. It's not like my opinion is somehow going to mystically travel to Utah and seal her fate for crying out loud! Sorry hon, I don't have that kind of power.

quote:This is interesing. So, this woman in Utah shouldn't suffer a similar "punishment" by you? What's the difference between her and the other two women? As far as I can see, they ALL made horrible choices and decisions about their children.

What's the difference? The two women I mentioned murdered their children coldly and violated the most sacred bond of all, that between a mother and her children. The woman in Utah didn't kill a child, period. She's not a murderer. Making such a ludicrous comparison is laughable.

Glad that you got a giggle out of that. Try laughing more often...it's good for one's character. :p

While I agree that the first two women did indeed murder their own children, I'm looking at it from the POV that each woman made piss-poor judgement calls that ended up with their offspring dead. I'm not saying that the Utah woman murdered her fetus, I'm saying that the choice that she made put the fetus at risk that led to its' death. If you are fine with her going on with her life with the possibility of doing it again, GREAT! WONDERFUL! That is certainly your prerogative, just as is it mine to say that I think/feel that what she did was wrong and irresponsible.

Look: as far as I know (as of this posting), nothing's been decided yet, so in the meantime, calm the hell down, and if what the authorities decide doesn't sit well with you, then you are more than welcome to take a trip to Utah to express your feelings about the matter.