View Single Post
Old 07-20-2013, 05:51 PM   #73
Adak
Lecturer
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 796
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamplighter View Post
@Adak, this is a statement I have not heard before,
and have not been able to find via my Google searches.

What I have found are sequences of events that speak to phone calls
between Martin and his girl friend, both before and at the time of the shooting.

Attachment 44856

What I have also found is the following statement in this link,
and that agrees with what I had heard reported over the course of these events...

These seem to me to be significant enough to affect people's opinions about the jury finding.

Quote:

Adak, Will you please document or cite a link
to support your statement that Martin actually arrived at his girl friend's home,
and then went back to "fix that cracker".
Unfortunately, no.

That was reported by the media, immediately after the incident. Of course, I was interested in the case, and began perusing several media sources - on the net, and several radio stations, including KNX 1070 (a CBS Affiliate), out of Los Angeles, and a local FOX radio station, among others.

Then everything started changing:

The DA found nothing to charge Zimmerman with, after several hours of questioning, after the shooting, but in the wake of pressure from the community, a new prosecutor miraculously found Zimmerman should be charged with murder!

Martin's dad changed his opinion of the voice screaming for help on the 911 calls (to the dispatcher), but nobody could agree, even the "experts" and the FBI.

Some sources are saying Zimmerman changed his story as well. The witnesses changed theirs. Quite the mess.

I did find this, very interesting though:

Quote:
Martin had been suspended from school at the time of his death.[22] He had been suspended twice before. One suspension was for tardiness and truancy.[23] Another suspension in October 2011 was for graffiti, when Martin was observed by a security camera in a restricted area of the school marking up a door with "W.T.F."[23]

When he was later searched by a Miami-Dade School Police Department officer, looking for the graffiti marker, the officer found several pieces of women's jewelry in his backpack, which Martin said a friend had given to him. A screwdriver was also found, which was described by the school police investigator as a burglary tool.

The jewelry was impounded and given to the police, but no evidence ever surfaced to indicate that the jewelry was stolen.[23] Martin's third suspension involved a marijuana pipe and an empty bag containing marijuana residue.[22] Martin was not charged with any crime related to these incidents and did not have a juvenile record.[24] Judge Nelson ruled that the defense may have access to Martin's records, including the details of these suspensions, as well as access to Martin's social media sites,[25] but ruled they will not be admissible as evidence during the trial unless they can be shown to be relevant.[26]
Also this:
Quote:
Crimes committed at The Retreat (the name of the gated community, inside the larger Twin Lakes development apparently), in the year prior to Martin's death included eight burglaries, nine thefts, and one shooting.[61] Twin Lakes residents said there were dozens of reports of attempted break-ins, which had created an atmosphere of fear in their neighborhood.
Other burglaries by young black males in the recent past, in the community, and Zimmerman got a pistol (rather than a pepper sprayer), because he was advised to do so by Animal Control, after a vicious pit bull cornered his wife.

In the actual call to the PD, Zimmerman says Martin is approaching him, while he's still in his truck. "With his hands in his waistband".

You can hear the entire call to the PD (not a dispatcher on this call), and read all the above quoted info, on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

Zimmerman doesn't sound like a racist, to me. Listen for yourself. There's a ton of other info on this - what evidence was allowed at the trial, and what evidence was not allowed, and why.

Zimmerman's description of Martin "he's just walking around, looking into houses..."

does strike me as suspicious, in light of Martin's previous possession of several pieces of women's jewelry, and a screwdriver.

I have never heard of a teenage guy walking around, carrying several pieces of womens' jewelry, and a screwdriver.

That is a burglar.

Was he "casing" homes when Zimmerman found him? I have no idea. But he definitely was a burglar when he was caught earlier with the womens' jewelry and screwdriver.

Ask any cop.

Martin didn't deserve to be shot over a burglary, but it shows why Zimmerman wanted to confront Martin.

Last edited by Adak; 07-20-2013 at 06:20 PM.
Adak is offline   Reply With Quote