I haven't paid any attention to the Gruber guy because I remember it the same way as Clodfobble. I remember one clear lie though, but at the time I knew it was an obvious lie and I assumed others did too, because the truth had been told enough times that the lie was clearly a contradiction. Obama said on numerous occasions just before the passage that you wouldn't lose your old insurance if you have some, when what he meant to say was that you wouldn't lose your old insurance as long as it met the minimum requirements.
That was a lie, but anyone paying attention knew what he meant. He kept repeating it though.
There were multiple exemptions given to various groups, which I didn't like. And there were some other stupid political compromises rolled in to the bill that I can't remember off the top of me head. So there was some crap in Obamacare. But it was very clear what the overall thing was.
And the people and organizations opposing Obamacare were spreading so many lies. Nothing they said was true. I was willing to forgive Obama's lie about not losing your insurance if you have some. Remember the death panels scare? Holy shit. Such liars. Talk about the kettle calling the pot black.
Last edited by glatt; 11-17-2014 at 10:32 AM.
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