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Originally Posted by Griff

To me the appalling thing is that political opponents no longer seem to attack opponents programs on the facts. Instead of making hay with the mandatory nature of Obamacare or Obamas lies about keeping your old program, they go with death panel bullshit or pretend medicare isn't a government program. We are at a point where nobody can admit their opponent has a value system they're making choices based upon.

Because they can, it works because Americans are stupid. Guess Gruber was right.