This posting is from the Weird News thread where it was not really appropriate
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Originally Posted by Undertoad
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First we have to decide on murders versus deaths.
I think murders is the thing we really care about.
We are not trying to work out the detail of all the bad things that might go wrong in the world.
The deaths number includes suicides and accidents and criminals killed by cops.
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As far as ghetto goes, it is not a manipulation.
The number of gun murders in the ghetto is at least 10 times higher than
in your worst Walmart Texan nightmare. Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight breaks it down for us.
He rudely breaks it down by black homicide victims in the US
(19.4 per 100,000) versus white homicide victims (2.5 per 100,000).
That's not exactly it, because that's not exactly the ghetto.
And black non-ghetto neighborhoods are not a problem anyway.
This is not a racial thing.
It is a ghetto thing.
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UT, this is the part of your post I question most. I agree setting priorities is necessary;
but saying gun-murders vs gun-deaths are “the thing we really care about”
… ”in the ghetto” and “And black non-ghetto neighborhoods are not a problem anyway.”
make your statements highly subjective and political.
What is your basis for excluding “gun deaths” ?
And what do you mean by “It is a ghetto thing” ?
Regarding the link to Nate Silver, he is actually using homicide
rates, not
numbers of homicide victims.
Using homicide rates in different countries is an apples-and-oranges distraction to slice data
thin enough that the US does not appear to be an outlier among other countries !
How is that even relevant ?
But with respect to numbers of homicide victims, the differences in
population sizes
of the three major US ethnic groups yields a different perspective.
Whites : 318,857,056 X 77.4 % X 2.5/100k = 6,169 deaths = 36% of all homicides
Blacks : 318,857,056 X 13.2 % X 19.4/100k = 8,165 deaths = 47% of all homicides
Hispanic: 318,857,056 X 17.4 % X 5.3/100k = 2,940 deaths = 17% of all homicides
These numbers of homicides speak for themselves.