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					Originally Posted by  xoxoxoBruce
					 
				 
				No no no, consequences are not necessarily painful, they could be, minimal, embarrassing, costly, or death, and must be evaluated before taking action. You're thinking like a four year old. 
			
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 To a child, consequences without pain are routinely ignored.  Logic does not exist in a child. Everything is about emotions.
Painful to a child is an adult who withholds affection or approval. Even an adult's facial expressions can be a painful consequence. (You must have seen that in videos demonstrating child psychology -right?) That consequence (even a facial expression) is painful to a child.
A child's world is fully about emotion.  Emotion is the only 'how' a children learns what is right or wrong.  Intelligent parents never use corporal punishment - as you assumed they must for reasons that are scary.  Corporal punishment is used by parents who do not understand this - who therefore are abusive.
Why do you have so much trouble with well understood psychology?  Why do you foolishly assume only corporal punishment works?  A potential child beater would not understand any of this; must only believe "Use the whip; save the child."  Apparently all this is new?  Apparently you never learned consequences are best used without any physical action.  Because a child's world is only about emotions.
Emotions also easily manipulate (brainwash) adults who are still children.  Only propaganda and soundbytes will manipulate adults who are still children.