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Old 12-18-2018, 12:21 PM   #215
Flint
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
Nobody really wants to know anyone's opinion on this, they just want to confirm their own, or have a fight. I've stopped talking about it, when I remember to (that's why I just deleted 6 paragraphs and replaced them with this)
Actually, I wanted to know and that's why I asked. Because the Cellar is an escape from the typical 'echo chamber' of social media, we can hear opinions from people whose intellect we respect, but whose conclusions we don't share. At best, this means my opinions are challenged and it gives me a reason to evaluate whether they should be changed; and at the very least it lets me understand the basis of people's viewpoint. This has happened many, many, many times, and I will never accept the premise that "people shouldn't talk about politics" or whatever.

In a thread here recently, Henry Quirk finally got through to me what people mean about the difference between Capitalism and Free Enterprise, and because of that I don't think people who are further right than me on the economic scale sound like gibbering nincompoops. I still disagree, but I see the opposing views being rooted in the same exact concerns.

Also, I acknowledge UT as a champion for "not being stupid on the internet and talking in circles" and I see that and I commend you for that. That's another thing where my viewpoint was influenced because I listened to somebody explain something.
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