[Griff]

I was pretty sure I wanted to advocate having him banned after the threat (and it was a threat), but there is one thing about his psychological make-up that's holding me back. He needs for his own sense of religious superiority to not be accepted. He needs to feel silenced to feed his own disease. On the flip side, I don't want Sheldon Erica et al to feel at all unwelcome here. They are important members of the cellar who need to be listened to. Our community has always been an open place and I want it to stay that way. Maybe JB's family will have him committed soon... If push comes to shove I'd have to go with flint's position, it was a threat of violence and he should be banned for it.