[Radar]

Listen up - I am talking about assigning individual rights...that is what you want - isn't it? or are you going to contradict yourself again?

I never contradicted myself in the first place. You failed in your last attempt to point out a contradiction because there was none. Try again.

Exactly - without assigning individual, inalienable, equal access rights for all how are going to determine who is taking more for their needs robbing me of mine?

You don't. You don't need to determine who is using more air. And if someone is using all the land and you have none, they are not robbing you of anything, nor are you being robbed if someone else breathes more than you. Nor are you being robbed if someone puts air in bottles. Nor are you being robbed if someone pollutes the air. This is the base level fallacy in your poor excuse for logic.

You don't measure how much air each person gets, not only because it's impossible and impractical, but also because it's just plain stupid. You do measure land though and you are not entitled to any land or any compensation for land you don't own because land has become more scarce. If you want land, work for it and get it while the getting is good or be left out in the cold.

isn't it better in your perfect little adjudication world to spell it out so rights aren't trampled?

Get this through your thick skull and into your empty head...YOUR RIGHTS ARE NOT BEING TRAMPLED!!! at least in terms of this discussion. You don't have a right to land. You don't have a right to a certain amount of air. You don't have a right to be compensated for land being more scarce. YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE RIGHTS SO THEY AREN'T BEING TRAMPLED ON!!

And for the record, yes, it is better living in a world of reality than the fantasy world you suggest. Your desire to be a victim has left you devoid of logic.

Exactly - you are suggesting stealing from those who creates the extrinsic value that naturally occurs under monopoly conditions, not me!

Wrong again. The land owner isn't STEALING from anyone. Even if one person owned 80% of all the land mass on earth and everyone else on earth had to share the other 20%, he wouldn't be stealing. That is a retarded notion put forth by idiots.

Ok, I am still waiting to hear about how your adjudication system for air pollution will specifically help my son's asthma condition...let's start with the basics shall we - who am I going to sue?

Well, given the fact that you're not born with the right to have air that is free from pollution, you really would have a hard time suing anyone. But let's say you lived next door to a factory that was spewing poisons into the air. You could sue them when your son got sick and they'd most likely settle out of court to get you to shut up. Your kid would get treatment. Although if I were a parent who loved my kid, I'd move somewhere else. But what should I expect from you...an irresponsible, thief who attempts to justify their robbery by telling lies and making false claims that others are thieves for not allowing you to rob them.

Typical macho flash response to throw a little red meat into the pen of lions to help you defend an untenable position...

Typical moronic response to a cogent, intelligent, reasonable and rational argument that you can't refute. My position has been defended perfectly. Yours has no defense. Your logic is circular and flawed, your arguments have no merit, and your philosophy is a joke.

So, in other words, Radar wanted to debate you on this esoteric minutae of political philosophy, and chose here to be the place, yet both of you refuse to state your basic definitions for the rest of us, insisting that we do a lot of complicated reading first?

I don't get it.

I thought this was a more appropriate forum than the FSP site. Also I wanted to hear from the others in here. I have given you a link to a site that clearly defines and describes georgism and the faults with it. I'll try to give you the readers digest version.

The followers of Henry George (Georgists) are socialists who lie and claim to be classic liberalists (libertarians) and think that land belongs to "EVERYONE". They think they are born with the entitlement to land and if someone buys a lot of land, land becomes more scarce so they think they are entitled to be compensated (through robbery) because land has become more expensive due to available land becoming more scarce (the law of supply and demand). There are many flavors of this extremely flawed and ignorant philosophy but they basically range from socialism to hard-core communism.

There have been a number of ignorant people who have championed this philosophy such as the Adam Smith whom this idiot has named himself after.

I hope this has cleared things up. I don't think I can take it below the elementary level.