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I don't miss Ibby calling us cunts and telling us what to think, what to say, that we're all oppressors as defined by Ibby and should go fuck ourselves and die, at all. If Ibby ever decides to be civil, I'd welcome the chance to talk again. Ibby was too angry to be coherent, but I hope that, in time, it'll be possible to have a rational conversation. At that point, I think Ibby would be surprised.
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The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi 
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