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Old 02-07-2012, 12:44 PM   #161
Lamplighter
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Originally Posted by Clodfobble View Post
I'm with you, Griff. Didn't have time to jump in, but you said everything I could have.
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As did the hundreds of thousands who still got sick off of pasteurized products.
The missing data point is, next to 40 ill people, how many people are safely consuming these raw farm products,
compared to how many sickened/unsickened mass-factory consumers there are.
Clod, I hope your remark above was exaggeration only for impact... otherwise I call BS.

I realize public health statistics are not convincing to the believers.
But here is a link that summarizes another link (downloads a pdf)
on disease outbreaks in the U.S. during the past year.

85% of Outbreaks and Illnesses from Milk Products were traced
to Raw Milk or 60-day Aged Raw Milk Cheeses in the Last 18 Months


The details are in the pdf of that download. There is risk in discussing
the numbers of illness cases because cases depend on the size of each dairy's clientele.
Basically the numbers outbreaks are very small (14 raw / 1 pasterized),
but the numbers of dairies and the amounts of dairy products are hugely disproportionate.

A Libertarian argument against government intervention denies
the world's history and the impact of pasteurization and vaccination.
It was the futility of such a Libertarian view that was my original point in these posts.
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