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Old 11-18-2003, 07:40 PM   #9
tw
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Originally posted by Undertoad
No he didn't. This is one that we've been over and over and over, and you're just not paying attention. The "16 words" of the State of the Union address said Hussein was seeking uranium in AFRICA, not NIGER.
There is no doubt what George Jr was referring to when he said "Africa". Why do you 'spin doctor' just like George Jr's staff? George Jr cited a mythical attempt to get uranium from Niger. What he did not say, his personal advisers filled in the gaps. Face it. George Jr lied about that uranium which his administraton claimed was obtained from Niger. He lied because he was desperately seeking any - even the most trivial reason - to justify an attack on Iraq. He lied because honesty is not one of his strong suites. An attack we now know was inevitable and in progress long before he gave that speech. Or are you denying that also?

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Originally posted by Undertoad
The Clinton administration had most of the same concerns as the W administration. So when you say "these people lied", please include the Clinton administration, including the current CIA head who was a Clinton appointee.
And since Clinton had some intelligence, he did not automatically associate 'concerns' with 'justification for an invasion'. Why could George Jr not even get the UN to approve of his preordained war. Because he had no valid reason to invade Iraq. He and Tony Blair intentionally decieved the world to justify war. Lying we have not seen since Nixon - who lied even about Cambodia.

Unlike Clinton, George Jr did not have enough knowledge to understand that war is only justified *after* the smoking gun exists. Pearl Harbor, the invasion of Kuwait and South Korea were classic smoking guns. Iraq was a myth from the very beginning which is why the mother of the first Brit killed in Iraq does not think she will get to meet George Jr. She blames Geroge Jr and his lies for the death of her oldest son. She has some very good reasons for her opinions. The aluminum tubes being the benchmark example of why we are now in a morass in Iraq and why so many are dying unnecessarily. You would think this president would have learned how it is done from the Balkans. Unfortunately, extremists don't have respect for the lessons of history or US serviceman - the little guy who is taking it on the chin because this administration lied.

Shameful to be doing this to soldiers. Clinton had far more respect for that soldier which is why Clinton did not immediately associate concerned with 'justification for an invasion'. Clinton was smart enough to still wait for the smoking gun - and to use negotiation to solve problems with dramatic effect. This post is about how the interests of soliders and civilians have been subverted in the name of a George Jr personal agenda - the preordanced invasions of Iraq.

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