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Old 12-18-2018, 04:14 PM   #216
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Originally Posted by Flint View Post
Actually, I wanted to know and that's why I asked. Because the Cellar is an escape from the typical 'echo chamber' of social media, we can hear opinions from people whose intellect we respect, but whose conclusions we don't share.
Unfortunately, almost no 'global warming' deniers post any research or even numbers. Their reasoning breaks down into a "conspiracy by scientist". And subjective (qualitative) conclusions - no numbers.

In a similar vein are so many who recommend Early Streamer Emission to protect from lightning. They claim those pointy devices will discharge the air - avert lightning. Once fact that repeatedly appears: no research demonstrates that popular myth. And still so many believe it only because it was the first thing they were told using wild speculation. Without any numbers and any reason why.

Same applies to global warming deniers (ie a Senator from Oklahoma). Only reason to deny it - emotions. Or one gets political power by hyping myths to the naive. A classic example that many adults still think like a child - emotionally.

Where were these people when science also proved destruction of the ozone layer? Back then, science was respected. And was therefore correct.

Science clearly says mankind is creating global warming. As more facts are discovered, the science is again and again confirmed. Only question has always been how much - how fasts.

One of the last deniers of global warming was a best expert on the Atlantic Oscillatory effect. However, once facts (numbers) for deep ocean temperatures were collected, even he reversed his conclusion. Even he admitted mankind is clearly creating this global warming.

Simulations from decades ago have been accurate; have identified the trends. However some variations in those trends were a source of controversy.

If what has been happening in deep oceans hold true, then this global warming may even accelerate. Will it? There is no doubt that mankind has created global warming. Only question is how fast - the details. And whether this climate change will continue or accelerate.

And finally, the coal industry deserves to be undermined (pun?). The coal industry has done no innovations in the past 40 years. Coal industry even undermined IGCC research. It might hurt short term profits. Innovation is never profitable on spread sheets until long after that innovation is no longer innovative.

So coal must invent every possible excuse to deny global warming. To destroy jobs - to continue stifling innovation.

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