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Old 02-18-2005, 09:48 AM   #11
Beestie
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Originally Posted by Silent
Unless you've lived here and been a member of the Canadian military (as I have) and understand what its purpose is, stop spouting opinion as fact....I'm a Canadian and have spent significant time in the US. I'll take Canadian health care any day.
I haven't made one claim regarding the Canadian military or the Canadian health care system that I have not heard repeatedly while in Canada made by Canadians either to me personally or in Canadian media outlets.

But, if its facts you want, have at 'em....

Canada spends a paltry 1.1% of its GDP on the military which ranks it 137th out of 167 industrialized countries behind such military powerhouses as Niger, Mali, Madagascar, Camaroon and Togo. <table x:str="" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 105pt;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="140"> <col style="width: 105pt;" width="140"><tbody><tr style="height: 11.25pt;" height="15"><!--StartFragment--></tr> </tbody></table> <table x:str="" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 105pt;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="140"> <col style="width: 105pt;" width="140"><tbody></tbody></table> <table x:str="" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 105pt;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="140"> <col style="width: 105pt;" width="140"><tbody><tr style="height: 11.25pt;" height="15"><!--StartFragment--></tr> </tbody></table>
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Canada's military has withered so thoroughly the country is practically defenceless, according to a study released yesterday by the C.D. Howe Institute.

"Whether Canadians realize it or not, Canada is now all but undefended at a time of danger," Dr. Jack Granatstein writes for the institute.

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Dr. Granatstein outlines in detail the woes that have befallen the Canadian military under successive governments since the 1960s. He said army units are operating at roughly half-strength, warships are kept in dock for want of trained sailors to run them and the air force is short of pilots and still years away from replacing its 1960s-vintage Sea King helicopters.

Dr. Granatstein is a noted York University historian and chairman of the Council for Canadian Security in the 21st Century, a non-partisan group based in Calgary that advocates a greater government emphasis on defence.
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Originally Posted by CIA Factbook
Canada's paramount political problem is meeting public demands for quality improvements in health care and education services after a decade of budget cuts.
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Long the shining beacon for the American Left, the grand example of successful socialism on North American soil, the Canadian health care system is falling apart, or so says David Gratzer in Code Blue: Revising Canada's Health Care System.

Dr. Gratzer is a journalist and recent graduate of the University of Manitoba's medical school. Canada's system, known as "Medicare," is run by provincial governments and paid for by a combination of provincial and national funds. Co-payments are not allowed, nor are people allowed to go outside the system and pay for services directly (unless one leaves the country).


The system is plagued, Gratzer writes, by long waiting lists of sick patients, overcrowded hospitals, second-rate equipment, and a stream of doctors, nurses and patients fleeing to the United States. He documents these woes not only with a host of health care horror stories from Canadian newspapers, but with a long list of studies, both official and private.

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