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Old 11-16-2003, 12:08 PM   #7
tw
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Originally quoted by Undertoad
Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources.
From that quote, those agencies don't say Saddam and Al Qaeda cooperated. All that quote says is information in that report ALSO came from those other sources.

UT is quick to post spin doctored concepts from the George Jr administration. In the meantime today, Tony Cordesmann repeated again on ABC News "This Week" in blunt terms: there remains no reliable evidence whatsoever anywhere that Saddam and Al Qaeda cooperated. Once outside the realm of George Jr's spin doctors, then facts change sharply. It is why the US cannot get any world cooperation for Iraq. Reality and his political agenda are not same.

George Jr is in disagreement with virutally the entire world. Even Tony Blair admitted those many reasons for going to Iraq were lies. By admitting the truth, Blair lost 35 percentage points in popularity - but saved his job. And yet UT would still believe the interpretations from this administration?

UT has a serious problem. How many times is his primary source of information going to outright lie to him before he finally questions its integrity? They lied about aluminum tubes - and that was obvious before we attacked. He lied about uranium from Niger. We were fully involved in air attacks planned just for the invasion because the invasion was planned that long in advance - when George Jr first entered office. His administration outed a CIA agent to seek revenge against others who told the truth - exposing his spin doctors as liars. At what point does UT no longer trust these people for honest facts?

Even the claim that major combat ended was a lie.

Let's put some numbers up. Since combat ended, then about 200 soldiers died. Since medical help is so effective, the number of wounded is now up to 10 for every one dead. IOW since combat ended a few months ago, some 2000 injured have been evacuated from the battlefield. And for every two dead Americans, there is now one America who has lost one or more limbs. Activity in Arlington National Cemetary was this high in the early 1960s days of VietNam - when no one was saying major combat had ended.

This is not an emotional tug so that one only sees the causalty numbers and is appauled. These numbers are logic that say George Jr, et al had no idea what they were getting us into in Iraq. They have no exit strategy and no solution. The situation is only getting worse - as what can be expected when no enough troops are in country. The George Jr administration would have us ignore the full extent of causalties - because those numbers say George Jr was lying about what we could accomplish in Iraq. We are not the welcomed liberators. UT will have none of this because his sources, the George Jr's administration, is not even telling him these causalty numbers.

There remains no connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda. But George Jr's spin doctors are desperately trying to find one to justify this war. This George Jr invented problem is now our quagmire. A problem based on so many lies that closest US allies refuse to provide assistance. A problem that UT will not acknowledge because it is not part of the George Jr administration line. This administration has lied too many times to be a reliable source. No cooperation between Saddam and Al Qaeda has ever been located no matter how forcefully George Jr demands same. He has been trying since 11 September and still can't find any cooperation. It does not exist even in that report - as Tony Cordesmann said today.

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