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They're long books; the characters are fucking savage or quite simply savages period, celibate or otherwise. What's been tough for me is to figure just what motivates these characters to go to the extremes they do -- their prize does not seem worth their efforts or their slaughters.
The supernatural Others seem even nastier and if anything even more pointless. So I tend to read that series with a gradually increasing sense of WTF.
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Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.
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