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I just finished a great conversation on Why is This Happening? between Chis Hayes and Mark Galli. Mr. Galli wrote a challenging piece to his fellow Evangelicals about Trump but the conversation covers a lot more ground. The conversation was respectful between two very dissimilar people. Mr. Galli is very aware of the damage which Evangelicals do to themselves when politics come before Jesus Christ. He gave a much more nuanced view of himself and his movement than one might expect. Worth a listen.