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Old 07-08-2013, 09:36 AM   #2385
Lamplighter
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
Truth is really the most important thing in the world to me.
It's the basis of trust, which is the basis of all relationships.

The determination of truth is my lifelong mission.
It is the foundation that we stand on. Without it we have nothing.
<snip>

What if I told you "she" is actually a 35-year-old male
stockbroker with a family and kids in Toronto? What if I told you "her" IP addresses
were never from Colorado at all? Would that change your opinion of "her"?


Does reality matter? It definitely does.
My initial post regarding SamIam had to do, not with whether
"she" was a "habitual liar" or not, but with the epithet that followed.

Now, several postings later, UT takes the position that Sam
is/was harmful to the (Cellar)community,
and that he exposed her in the thread about her furnace vs heat plate.
If that is his claim to fame, so be it... but IMO overly exaggerated .

BUT now more seriously, UT claims "truth" is his goal,
and seeks to win the argument by the sentence:
Quote:
"What if I told you "she"...
UT: Are you being truthful in this statement that Sam is/was a hoax ?
Or just a specious debating ploy to win your position ?

If so, it is one of the most elaborate and consistent hoaxes I could imagine here in the Cellar.
I looked back over some of Sam's postings, and found pics of the same woman
with her dog, with her truck, on her 2011 road trip in the Colorado Plateau.
Her political positions taken throughout were consistent, and her descriptions
of "Bates Motel", it's environs, and citizens are congruent and convincing.

Last edited by Lamplighter; 07-08-2013 at 09:51 AM.
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