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Old 08-20-2006, 11:34 AM   #9
DanaC
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I was trying to point out to UG that this utopia he seeks to promote for the world, where "everybody succeeds and lives well" isn't realistic and doesn't exist even in his own country. The fact is, under any system, some people succeed and some people do not. Each country/culture has its own set of definitions for what constitutes success and the price of not succeeding differs from country to country.

UG claims that if we all do things the American way every human will 'succeed and live well'. That is patently not the case. It is entirely contrary to the way capitalism works. It is most certainly not a rationale for imposing American economic and democratic structures onto the rest of the world.

In the UK, not everybody succeeds and lives well. The worst of their poverty is usually alleviated by the welfare state, but the gulf between the haves and the have-nots is still a gulf. In America, not everybody succeeds and lives well. In France not everybody succeeds and lives well.....not in Russia, not in Sweden not anywhere.
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