Should Kids Be Bribed to Do Well in School? - Page 3

squirell nutkin · 04-12-2010, 11:08 AM

Interesting article.

According to one of the baby raising gurus, either Sears or Penelope Leach, there is a difference between a bribe and an incentive.

An incentive is a contract, if you do x I will give you y. A bribe is an offer, after the contract to get the other person to fulfill an agreement they already made or complete a task you have already requested without an offer of reward.

"C'mon, you said you'd do x, please do x like you said. I'll give you xyz if you do x..." They had already agreed to do x and were reneging. adding extra rewards is a bribe and supposedly not good for the kid nor for the parents' standing.

It is a little unclear if these kids are being bribed since their participation in school is not voluntary (for the most part).

jinx · 04-12-2010, 11:19 AM

My kids have yet to be graded for any school work, but I have rewarded them. Most recently for writing assignments - 1 every week, due on Fri for a treat on Sat.

edit: They get paid for housework. $10/week for 1/2 hour a day of me bossing them around. They empty the dishwasher, do laundry, vacuum, clean bathrooms etc etc... Their rooms are horrible though.

piercehawkeye45 · 04-12-2010, 12:06 PM

I'm curious of the results of the next few years. I wonder how many kept on learning at an accelerated pace, how many went back to their normal "pre-experiment" pace, and how many now expect reward to any work and now move at an even slower pace then before?

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Originally Posted by classicman

... or the way the task is presented.

I agree with this. Some teachers can easily teach two years of material into one year and some and can barely get a half of year in. Its all about how the material is presented and how well the teacher can gets kids excited about learning the material.

classicman · 04-12-2010, 12:24 PM

classicman · 04-13-2010, 03:39 PM

Please people .... think of the children!

LovelyMaria · 04-13-2010, 04:14 PM

Mission Hill said it best....

This is following Kevin French buying himself a gift for doing well in school....

Kevin French: I hope you're not like this during the parent/teacher interviews.
Andy French: Hello! Andy French. Couldn't care less about your future.
Kevin French: Mom and Dad said you have to do everything that they do.
Andy French: You don't live with Mom and Dad any more. I paid the electricity bill and I don't get a present.
[lights begin to flicker on and off]

Or you could punish your child by saying that you're going to the movies...only it isn't a movie as much as it is a torturous hour starring Jennifer Aniston and Gerard Butler. Lulz.

Shawnee123 · 04-14-2010, 07:34 AM

:applause:

SamIam · 04-14-2010, 08:19 AM

When I was a child, it was do well at school or die. No exceptions. That seemed to work pretty well.

Shawnee123 · 04-14-2010, 08:24 AM

Ha! Yeah...me too. No excuses (except for 8th grade Home Ec. Mom got that there was no way in hell I was going to sew a decent freaking apron and kerchief out of lovely pink gingham. I balanced out my first D with an A in shop.)

All it took was the "look" from Dad. Straightened right up, I did.

classicman · 04-14-2010, 09:53 AM

You mean discipline, shaw? Surely you jest.
Hell, parents today would be brought up on charges of child abuse if they did 1/2 the things our parent did.
I got broken cutting boards, yardsticks and wooden spoons to prove it.

Bullitt · 04-14-2010, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

You mean discipline, shaw? Surely you jest.
Hell, parents today would be brought up on charges of child abuse if they did 1/2 the things our parent did.
I got broken cutting boards, yardsticks and wooden spoons to prove it.

Cutting board? Damn that will knock your spine out of whack.

Shawnee123 · 04-14-2010, 10:08 AM

We giggled at my mom and her yardsticks, acquired at the county fair. Hahahahaa. She never hit us with it, I think she swatted our butts with it once, playing...and it broke! "Just wait til your dad gets home!"

Actually, it took the one act of discipline from my Dad...then all it took was the look.

Shawnee123 · 04-14-2010, 10:35 AM

Money motivates me to answer questions.

classicman · 04-14-2010, 01:03 PM

I remember it was in the shape of a whale - kinda like this one only it was painted too. We still laugh about that one. It actually was broken on my brother's ass. (He had put his hockey shin pads over his ass cuz he knew what was coming.

Shawnee123 · 04-14-2010, 01:09 PM

That is hilarious!

04-12-2010, 11:08 AM	#1
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	Interesting article. According to one of the baby raising gurus, either Sears or Penelope Leach, there is a difference between a bribe and an incentive. An incentive is a contract, if you do x I will give you y. A bribe is an offer, after the contract to get the other person to fulfill an agreement they already made or complete a task you have already requested without an offer of reward. "C'mon, you said you'd do x, please do x like you said. I'll give you xyz if you do x..." They had already agreed to do x and were reneging. adding extra rewards is a bribe and supposedly not good for the kid nor for the parents' standing. It is a little unclear if these kids are being bribed since their participation in school is not voluntary (for the most part). __________________ And now I'm finished posting.

04-12-2010, 11:19 AM	#2
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	My kids have yet to be graded for any school work, but I have rewarded them. Most recently for writing assignments - 1 every week, due on Fri for a treat on Sat. edit: They get paid for housework. $10/week for 1/2 hour a day of me bossing them around. They empty the dishwasher, do laundry, vacuum, clean bathrooms etc etc... Their rooms are horrible though. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good. Last edited by jinx; 04-12-2010 at 11:24 AM.

04-12-2010, 12:24 PM	#4
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	__________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-13-2010, 03:39 PM	#5
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Please people .... think of the children! __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-14-2010, 07:34 AM	#7
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	:applause: __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

04-13-2010, 04:14 PM	#6
LovelyMaria Recruit or Something Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 5	Mission Hill said it best.... This is following Kevin French buying himself a gift for doing well in school.... Kevin French: I hope you're not like this during the parent/teacher interviews. Andy French: Hello! Andy French. Couldn't care less about your future. Kevin French: Mom and Dad said you have to do everything that they do. Andy French: You don't live with Mom and Dad any more. I paid the electricity bill and I don't get a present. [lights begin to flicker on and off] Or you could punish your child by saying that you're going to the movies...only it isn't a movie as much as it is a torturous hour starring Jennifer Aniston and Gerard Butler. Lulz.

04-14-2010, 08:19 AM	#8
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	When I was a child, it was do well at school or die. No exceptions. That seemed to work pretty well.

04-14-2010, 08:24 AM	#9
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Ha! Yeah...me too. No excuses (except for 8th grade Home Ec. Mom got that there was no way in hell I was going to sew a decent freaking apron and kerchief out of lovely pink gingham. I balanced out my first D with an A in shop.) All it took was the "look" from Dad. Straightened right up, I did. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

04-14-2010, 09:53 AM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	You mean discipline, shaw? Surely you jest. Hell, parents today would be brought up on charges of child abuse if they did 1/2 the things our parent did. I got broken cutting boards, yardsticks and wooden spoons to prove it. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt Last edited by classicman; 04-14-2010 at 10:01 AM.

04-14-2010, 10:08 AM	#12
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	We giggled at my mom and her yardsticks, acquired at the county fair. Hahahahaa. She never hit us with it, I think she swatted our butts with it once, playing...and it broke! "Just wait til your dad gets home!" Actually, it took the one act of discipline from my Dad...then all it took was the look. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

04-14-2010, 10:35 AM	#13
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Money motivates me to answer questions. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

04-14-2010, 01:03 PM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I remember it was in the shape of a whale - kinda like this one only it was painted too. We still laugh about that one. It actually was broken on my brother's ass. (He had put his hockey shin pads over his ass cuz he knew what was coming. Attached Images __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

04-14-2010, 01:09 PM	#15
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	That is hilarious! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

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