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Old 11-04-2004, 01:12 PM   #1
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You haven't driven much in PA, have you ... driving is entirely different here.

Oh, and we often don't have accelleration lanes. RAMP-HIGHWAY. No glide in. Some of the entries are sufficiently dangerous that you have to come to a complete stop before entering the highway. Talk about a challenge. 0-65 in 2 seconds, or you're dead.

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Old 11-04-2004, 01:36 PM   #2
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You haven't driven much in PA, have you ... driving is entirely different here.
No I haven't. To be honest, I only drive in PA for the first time this past summer, once going to Philly and again a couple of weeks later on the way to CT. I didn't have any trouble driving in PA. Hartford-area, CT on the other hand...
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Old 11-04-2004, 01:30 PM   #3
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Unfortunately, there's a lot of people (around here at least) simply don't know how, and figure merging onto highway traffic that's going highway speed or faster involves slowing down in the acceleration lane, which does nothing but force the people behind you who are speeding up to slam on their brakes and possibly swerve into the highway traffic at inadequate speed. Obvious exception is when there's gridlock and no one is moving very fast.

I always just come to a complete stop at the bottom of the entrance ramp if I think I'm behind a person of this driving caliber. That way I have all the room I want to accelerate properly, once his ass finally gets onto the highway.
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Old 11-04-2004, 01:45 PM   #4
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Try the surprise of an out-of-towner trying to negotiate a Jersey jughandle for the first time.

An old girlfriend of mine, who is from the St. Louis area, nearly crashed my car and killed us when she just had no clue how to enter or drive through a jughandle. I had to laugh at her lack of adaptability. How are they teaching ppl to drive out there?

Oh, on that note, I dislike people who:
- Do not follow the 'wipers on, lights on' guideline that is now law in a handful of states
- Suggest going (or tag along) to bars and restuarants that are out of their price range and either sit there and not order anything, or skimp on tax/tip and force others to cover in order to save face

I have more. Must think of them when I am not working.

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Old 11-04-2004, 02:11 PM   #5
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Driving is learned by doing, like anything else. I am a firm believer in the "outta-my-way I'm getting on the damn interstate" technique, myself. This involves accelerating to 90mph and cutting across all lanes of traffic to achieve the far left lane within 5 seconds from start to finish of manuever. One then remains in the far left lane traveling at top speed for as long as one is forced to travel the stretch of interstate, leaving it as soon as humanly possible. I am a firm advocate of back roads, preferably unpaved ones. Following dry stream beds into the wilds is best of all.
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:23 PM   #6
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I am a firm believer in the "outta-my-way I'm getting on the damn interstate" technique, myself. This involves accelerating to 90mph and cutting across all lanes of traffic to achieve the far left lane within 5 seconds from start to finish of manuever. One then remains in the far left lane traveling at top speed for as long as one is forced to travel the stretch of interstate, leaving it as soon as humanly possible.
Ohhh you're one of those fun drivers. We should get together and own a highway sometime!


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Old 11-04-2004, 04:12 PM   #7
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An old girlfriend of mine, who is from the St. Louis area, nearly crashed my car and killed us when she just had no clue how to enter or drive through a jughandle.
What in the heck is a jughandle? -- Also from St. Louis.
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:24 PM   #8
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What in the heck is a jughandle? -- Also from St. Louis.
You may know it as the loops of a cloverleaf... they're the sweeping loops in those big interstate entrance/exit ramps.

...unless that's a Jersey term that just totally passed me by.
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:17 PM   #9
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Nope, jug handles go the opposite way.
If you're approaching a cross street where you want to make a left, you get in the right lane and just before the cross street you make a right turn on the jug handle. It arcs left to the cross street where you make a left then cross the street you were originally on, at the light.
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Old 11-05-2004, 07:30 AM   #10
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Nope, jug handles go the opposite way.
If you're approaching a cross street where you want to make a left, you get in the right lane and just before the cross street you make a right turn on the jug handle. It arcs left to the cross street where you make a left then cross the street you were originally on, at the light.
Oh THOSE. Wow, I was way off the mark there. We know them down here as 'fly-over' ramps.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:59 PM   #11
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Nope, jug handles go the opposite way.
If you're approaching a cross street where you want to make a left, you get in the right lane and just before the cross street you make a right turn on the jug handle. It arcs left to the cross street where you make a left then cross the street you were originally on, at the light.
Ok then. Well this explains the problem that Breakingnews' girlfriend from St. Louis had. See in St. Louis, they have civil engineers that aren't on crack. So we have come to expect a certain level of, well, sanity in street and highway design. Running into the insane when you're not expecting it tends to throw people off.
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:01 PM   #12
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Jughandles, no problem. It's the traffic circles you have to watch out for.

And driving through PA, staying on the turnpike or some other interstate, just really doesn't give you the full flavor ...

You have to get on and off some of the state roads, or one of the roads that's only referred to by name, but only officially identified by number on the signs ...
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:23 PM   #13
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people that ask me a question and then don't believe me when I tell them the answer. What, do they think, I just pulled it out of my ass? What did they ask me for if they don't trust my answer????
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:19 AM   #14
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Meargeing , try driveing a 65000 lb truck , 2 ways to do it ,
1) slowly and carefully watching for traffic ,
2) i weigh more than you so I go were i want when i want ( the i will squach you like a bug if you get in my way MOTHER FUCKER !!!!)

people that anoy me , well the number and scope of FUCKTARDS in the world that piss me off boggle the mind , but i try HARD to go by this saying " Never argue with an idiot , They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experence "


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Old 11-05-2004, 07:58 AM   #15
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On the pedesterian thing - one of the thing about london I like is that we (pedesterians) win by sheer numbers, when people start crossing on a busy saturday on oxford street it doesn't make any damn difference if the lights change, people will just keep crossing and there is nothing the traffic can do. Of course the near-constant virtual gridlock in the inner city makes it easy enough to cross anyway.

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