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Old 10-30-2004, 11:48 AM   #1
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So an historical analogy would be voting for the Communists to keep the Nazis out of power?
Hmmm... I suppose you could look at it that way. You have to remember, though, that Hitler siezed power in the early 30's before the communists really got their bad rep. Who knows what a German democratically elected communist government would have been like? Without Hitler, Germany might have become an early version of Sweden today.
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:28 AM   #2
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That's what I thought, too.

I don't know if I'd go that far with the analogy, man. But here's another simple question: Do you want the legislative and executive branches of government to remain joined at the hip?

HM, you're right...it was incredibly stupid of our Congress to do such a thing. At least some of them are willing to admit it was stupid now.
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:19 PM   #3
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Badnarik is polling around, what? One percent maybe? Granted, I think he should be included in any polling...hell, he should have been part of the debates. But other than Radar, who really gives a fuck in the end?
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Old 10-31-2004, 01:08 AM   #4
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I'm voting for Osami, myself. Now, THERE'S a leader for you. Him and his scuzzy litle group of fanatics waltz right into the heart of the most powerful country in the world, kill 5,000 people, and Osami lives to tell the tale and make fun of our president just days before our national election. Either Bin Laden is extremely intelligent and crafty or Bush is an inept, bungling, fool. Whoops! Don't answer that one, Ms. or Mr. American Voter! Geez!
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:59 AM   #5
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A vote for George Jr is an endorsement of torture - and other policies that violate fundamental American values.
Quite. And if the American people vote Bush in, the rest of the world will continue to see them as adamant supporters of war, millitance and injustice. A vote for Kerry shows us you want change, that you do actually care how America is seen by the rest of the world - who are hoping for the fundamental change needed to allow them to be your allies.

Just had to get my two British pennies in on election day.
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:09 PM   #6
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Quite. And if the American people vote Bush in, the rest of the world will continue to see them as adamant supporters of war, millitance and injustice. A vote for Kerry shows us you want change, that you do actually care how America is seen by the rest of the world - who are hoping for the fundamental change needed to allow them to be your allies.
I was in Europe in June and had a compelling desire to apologize to everyone I saw for the actions of our idiot President. He has insulted so many of our allies (and non-allies) that I don't blame you guys for being a little ticked off. I didn't vote for the guy....don't blame me!!!
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:05 PM   #7
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Well, Catwoman, thanks for speaking for the "rest of the world"--Now, pay this much attention to your own elections and maybe all you Brits will find yourselves in a happier place too, mmm? Oh, and as for the American people wishing to portray themselves as war-mongers and supporters of injustice and oppression of "the people", I think we're all for that. I mean, there's nothing we like better than to have Europeans spit in our collective face and scream "baby killer!" at us. Just ask anyone. We love it! Gee, I hope you can read the sarcasm here as I know that can be a problem in cyberworld.
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:08 PM   #8
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Well, Catwoman, thanks for speaking for the "rest of the world"--Now, pay this much attention to your own elections and maybe all you Brits will find yourselves in a happier place, mmm?
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:42 AM   #9
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Well, Catwoman, thanks for speaking for the "rest of the world"--Now, pay this much attention to your own elections and maybe all you Brits will find yourselves in a happier place too, mmm? Oh, and as for the American people wishing to portray themselves as war-mongers and supporters of injustice and oppression of "the people", I think we're all for that. I mean, there's nothing we like better than to have Europeans spit in our collective face and scream "baby killer!" at us. Just ask anyone. We love it! Gee, I hope you can read the sarcasm here as I know that can be a problem in cyberworld.
No problem, sarcasm understood. Now go back and read my post and tell me where I said that you WANT to be seen as war-mongers etc. Can't find it? Oh. What I said was:

"if the American people vote Bush in, the rest of the world will continue to see them as adamant supporters of war, millitance and injustice"

Of course that's not how you want to be seen. But that's how you will be seen. Sorry, you don't have a choice.

The majority of people on this board talk a lot of sense. You, Brianna, spout unnecessary retaliatory shite

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big kiss, jag.
Doing your bit for the 'typical woman' stereotype eh?
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Old 11-02-2004, 04:56 PM   #10
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Blair may be a lieing, spineless, gutless, directionless and teflon coated but I'd prefer him over shrub any day, the bigger problem here is the opposition makes the cure look worse than the disease. I'm with Hunter S Thompson, bush truly is nothing short of a global disaster.
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:01 PM   #11
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Blair may be a lieing, spineless, gutless, directionless and teflon coated but I'd prefer him over shrub any day, the bigger problem here is the opposition makes the cure look worse than the disease. I'm with Hunter S Thompson, bush truly is nothing short of a global disaster.
We're all very aware of how you see yourselves over there. If you give such a damn go do something about it where you can. It's so easy to play Monday morning quarterback, isn't it? And by the way, I voted for Kerry--doesn't that make all you Brits feel all warm and cozy? I'm tired of your snot-nosed Brit comments. We are a nation of very different peoples, just like all of you. I wouldn't DREAM of sticking my "two cents" in where your country is concerned. Get over yourselves already.
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:09 PM   #12
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It's so easy to play Monday morning quarterback, isn't it?
To be fair, the majority of Americans who voted thought that Shrub was a bad idea on Saturday, well before the game began. It took the Republican majority on the Supreme Court to get him into the game. I wouldn't call that Monday morning quarterbacking.
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:13 PM   #13
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Blair may be a lieing, spineless, gutless, directionless and teflon coated but I'd prefer him over shrub any day, the bigger problem here is the opposition makes the cure look worse than the disease.
Not to mention that I find Tony Blair to be strangely attractive. I don't understand it, either.
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:17 PM   #14
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Not to mention that I find Tony Blair to be strangely attractive. I don't understand it, either.
One of my female friends thinks Bush is hot. And she's a flaming liberal. Being a guy, I certainly don't get it.
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Old 11-02-2004, 05:11 PM   #15
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If it makes you feel better, you can pretend I said what jaguar said, and I live within 8 miles of the Capitol.
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