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Old 07-31-2006, 09:44 AM   #10
Spexxvet
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Thank you for clarifying your misunderstanding.
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Originally Posted by MaggieL
You started off by representing that an adequate minimum wage would solve the homeless problem.
That misrepresents my words. Actually, I said
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
If minimum wage was enough to provide food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, and maybe a few amenities, there would be fewer of these folks in the park.
Not solve. Are you disputing that there would be fewer homeless in the park if minimum wage were enough to support someone?

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Asked what that "adequate" wage would be, you blew smoke for a while .
Like you are with your own solution. Kill them? Help them? You don’t want your money to help feed them. You don’t want them in your park. What’s your plan?

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
then quoted about $10/hr (comparable to places like the UK and France, where of course they have utterly no problems with either unemployment or homelessness).
Actually, my thoughts were in general terms at the time, and when you demanded specifics I hadn’t taken the time to do any calculations. I thought about it, and posted an estimate.

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Then when I pointed out that you'd trimmed the original scope of what was "adequate", you said "Well, of course that's not enough,
If you want minimum wage to be higher, suggest your own amount. I posted what I thought was a bare minimum.

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
The government should feed everyone and pay for it with wealth redistribution."
Actually, I didn’t bring the government into it at all.
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
That's my point, exactly. It's not likely that $9.09 would do it. Before you bring up the $15.00 McBurger, the only way this will work is if the wealth gluttons settle for less. That's right - WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION (gasp). Some folks who make hundreds of million dollars a year need to cut down, so that there won't be starving crazy lazy criminals making an eyesore in your park. Because
It’s the CEO, who makes $100 million, saying “I can exist on $80 million, I’ll put $20 million toward payroll and raise the standard of living for my employees, who can’t support themselves on $9.00/hour. See? Look Mom, no government!
And it was an either/or statement. Either society/government provides for these folks, with tax revenue, or business does, not by raising prices, but by not being wealth-gluttons. Except for the mentally ill and the prodigal sons, of course.

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Originally Posted by MaggieL
Stick with one position, please. You got a foot in the door with "raise the minimum wage" and now we've slippery-sloped to "eat the rich".
Hey, There’s an option I hadn’t considered.
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