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Supply and demand is not just a "model", it applies to everything on this earth, as if it were a natural law. You can either work with it or against it. If you work against it you will eventually fail. You can create a differing "model" but eventually the cracks in your model will be due to economic rules that have more power than you do.
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09-08-2007, 09:27 AM | #107 | |
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Erring on the side of freedom is always, always better than erring on the side of authority.
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Edit: I more than just 'disagree' - will sit down later to discuss the problems with anarchist philosophy.
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Nice generalization in your first post, then denial in your second one.
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'Stupid' referred to lists like that and their use; they reduce important issues to inaccuracy and useless oversimplification.
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For example... It's not better to make murder okay... but it is better to let a murderer go free than put an innocent man in jail.
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BTW, much of that list is the platform of the repubican party, the self-professed "conservative" party. I think it pretty closely reflects "conservative values".
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I would also say that any system that attempts to totally eradicate success of the fittest as well as environmental pressures will eventually crumble. We are subject to the laws of nature as well.
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A balance between the two is needed. A system that allows someone to have as much freedom as they can without taking away other people's freedom. A loose authority can do this but preferably a society can reach equilibrium and enforce it themselves without the need for a strong central power. |
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Freedom is not free to harm others. Freedom is not to infringe on the freedom of others. Anarchy is a silly concept it ALWAYS leads to totalitarianism. |
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I can't help but see the denial of freedom as an illness. It is against nature. If communism is so awesome someone would actually be doing it and people would be in line waiting to get into that nation, end of story. Last edited by rkzenrage; 09-08-2007 at 01:32 PM. |
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I repeat that communism is a great idea, but probably unworkable because of human greed. Doesn't mean I can't have a dream, does it?
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Do you have to make everything about you?
Inventions and fine art have real value. There are jobs far worse than taking care of people. Try cleaning out the bottom of a still full of one inch maggots and rotten mash. Risking your life while doing it, CO2 pockets (I have done this job and was paid well to do so). What would be the point of doing that if you are going to get the same pay as doing something else, sitting on your ass watching a computer screen? You keep saying it is a great idea, but have yet to SHOW it. |
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